Annelise Garrison: The University of Texas’s turtle pond has been students’ favorite study spot since the 1930s and is currently being used to conduct research on its inhabitants. The pond was built at the same time as the tower then becoming a memorial in 2004. However, it was not used for research until recently and today we are going to dive into what exactly that research is.
I interviewed the three team leaders of the Turtle Pond Project, Anastasia Kuzmina ( whom you might hear her peer leaders refer to as “Ani” during their interviews), Meredith Winfield, and Colby Seitze and am excited to offer you a deeper insight and a little bit of the behind the scenes work of the research being conducted on the pond.
Meredith Windfield: So its Meredith Winfield.
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Anastasia Kuzmina: So my name is Anastasia Kuzmina.
Colby Seitze: Yeah so I’m Colby Seitze.
Garrison: The turtle pond, though small in size, hosts over one hundred turtles and requires multiple teams to run effective research. I am honored to have these three research leaders share more with us today.
Garrison: And tell me if I’m understanding this correctly. Are there three teams?
Seitze: Yeah, there’s, there’s three of us. We’re in charge of different things. So Meredith is in charge of DNA extractions we get from the samples. Ani is in charge of actually getting the samples. And usually I’ll go down and help her out too. I’m in charge of going in and entering all the data.
Garrison: Colby talks about how there are three different groups that do research, but makes it out to be a team effort. Even though the tasks are delegated it sounds not only do the members share them but they want to share them. So what fuels this passion? Meredith shares a little bit on how the sense of familiarity guided her to today.
Windfield: When I was a kid, my brother and I, we had these turtles that would always eat our fish, and we were like I kinda hate this. So, we would catch them, put them in a literal Home Depot bucket, and throw them in our neighbor’s pond. So, hopefully they never listen to any of this. But, yeah, that’s how I already knew, kind of, how to handle turtles. So, yeah, this will be fun. And now l’ve been doing it for over a year and now I’m one of the team leaders, so.
Garrison: Colby tells me something similar about how familiarity and some sort of exposure guiding him.
Seitze: always loved biology. I actually didn’t start out as biology. I started as, um, biochem, but I’ve always really liked turtles. I had turtles growing up, and especially coming here, I’ve really grown fond of, you know, herps, amphibians or reptiles.
Garrison: Anastasia, whose colleagues refer to her as “Ani” in this podcast describes the root of her passion deriving from her parents…
Kuzmina: My dad worked at the CDC for forever doing zoonotic diseases. So it sort of came naturally to me.
Garrison: So we know that the turtle pond is being targeted by these researchers, but what is the turtle pond project really about? I asked Anastasia And Colby to summarize it for me and they were happy to explain…
Kuzmina: So the Turtle Pond Project, um, it started as a way to sort of just have a research project for ecology, evolution, behavior students and sort of make the Turtle Pond a living lab.
Since everyone says, oh yeah, it should be used for research, it’s being used for research when it wasn’t. So, it was initially just a project sort of making the Turtle Pond a living lab. What we do is we study the turtle microbiomes, they’re microbial communities on, you know, their bodies.
Seitze: We’re studying not just the turtles, but the microbiome that’s inside of them. So the bacteria that is inside of them and on them and in the environment. And the reason why we want to do that is because it’s actually a really useful indicator for the overall health of the ecosystem in the turtle pond. And we’re also measuring how it changes within the turtle pond. So we’re trying to figure out how it’s affecting their health and the overall health of the environment of the turtle pond as well.
Garrison: I questioned Meredith on the current state of the research.
Winfield: We’re presenting at, the undergrad research seminar, it’s where a lot of FRI people do their presentations, and so now I’m working on an abstract for that as well. And we have some preliminary results, so hopefully we’ll look at those soon. And it’s just analyzing that, talking to Havard, and Mary Angel, she’s the, um, PhD student also working with us, and she kind of helps us interpret what we’re getting back data wise.
Garrison: With all the research that the students do, and the amount of time spent by students and staff at the turtle pond, I assumed there would be an up keep team or somebody in charge of maintaining the cleanliness of the pond, especially for the Turtle Pond Project. Upon asking Meredith this I was proven wrong.
Garrison: So the Turtle Pond it’s really important to y’all obviously and obviously the culture surrounding UT, everyone likes to go there. What is the upkeep? Is there a team or a group of students maintaining the upkeep? Does it even need any upkeep?
Windfield: I don’t think there needs to be. I mean lakes and ponds dont need new water. Which I mean thankfully we did get it refilled so it’s a lot clearer and you can see all the turtles while they’re swimming. I mean maybe it might be different because it’s a concrete pond. But no i really dont think there’s any upkeep on it, and i mean for that i mean it looks great.
Garrison: As I mentioned before the UT Turtle pond is a popular study spot for students, but I was interested if it was strictly viewed as the living lab it is to the researchers or if they also thought it served a deeper emotional role for the university.
Garrison: So do you think the turtle pond in general adds to any culture at UT?
Kuzmina: For sure i think its a big part of UT life just because its right there, its a landmark. I know people go hangout and study there all the time. I always see people coming up and you know just watching the turtles you know taking pictures of them yup people enjoy the turtles love to see them. You know, just cute little critters swimming around.So yeah I think it’s a big part of UT culture all the tours, all the tourists just saying “this is a big part of UT” so yeah I just think its kind of sort of a little landmark at UT.
Garrison: This turtle pond is enriched with culture because of its newfound and impressive duality of serving as a living lab and a memorial. The important question is what is its future now?
Seitze: Um, I think right now the future is just It’s continuing to monitor how things change over time, and also I think this project is a really good way to get involved with people with research because it’s very, it’s very, it’s not as high commitment as other research projects here on campus, but I think it’s a lot of fun. So I think the future is just hopefully we get bigger and we get more people so we can come out and sample more turtles.
Garrison: For those of us who do have connections to the Turtles but aren’t entirely involved in the whole background and research part of it, is there a way that they can be?
Kuzmina: Yeah, so the Turtle Pond, so this project always, um, is accepting new people. Um, we definitely have a lot of people with, no research experience at all joining the project all the time, especially now that it’s sort of out on news outlets. Um, so, I think the best way to do that is just to contact Dr. Havard at j havard at utexas dot edu and sort of just contact him and just, I guess, express interest. Hey, I heard about this Turtle Pond Project, stuff on the news, you know.
Garrison: Okay, I have to ask, do you name the turtles? or how do you like-
Windfield: There’s one ginormous one he’s, so old you can just tell. Um, we call him Grandpa. Hes so heavy though. And like, I feel bad putting him on the scale because I’m kind of I’m like, Oh, sorry.
Garrison: You’re perfect just the way you are!
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